Although the science of DNA was largely unknown in 1972, when Garnett was tried, there is the possibility that tests could be done now. Police believe that the person in question is between 56 and 510 tall and weighs between 180 to 200 pounds. (The son is currently in prison for watching and downloading children being sexually abused -- sorry I can't use the word "porn" with regard to children). READ | ISP call Liberty German a 'hero' for capturing audio, photos of suspect. I'm not sure that's true, when the obituaries were published, one girl's date of death was the day after the other girl's, indicating that they must have known one died before midnight and one after, some time apart. 19521975, 1990. There are also sketches of the possible perps face. The photos at the link found in R93's thread aren't useful at all, but the info about the two white Dodge Darts is pretty interesting. Again, jmo. Almost bowed legs. I don't think that the fat guy and his dad are the actual killer(s). But, I couldn't tell you much more than that. Died: April 11, 2002 (20 years Ago), HomeTown: London, England, United Kingdom. WebJust to remind you guys, that the 'cause of death' is not the same as the 'mode of death'. Our investigators are still, on a daily basis, receiving information which can be looked into. Good observation! However, we do not know when the inquiry was made about the Toyota nor if it was even near Delphi. Maybe thats because the assailant was there to carry out a revenge killing/warning to Derek German for snitching and couldnt or wasnt willing to rape one or both tweens, and so killed them and left the bodies posed in a provacative, profane way to hurt the families and community. I care about this case and am so angry that someone has gotten away with it for this long. That might also explain why they would keep some of the recordings from the public. It seems he came prepared with a weapon. Provided Photo One of the cellphone pictures from the Delphi murders depicts the suspect walking down the railroad bridge toward Abby Williams and Libby German. This page was last edited on 29 January 2023, at 23:38, "TheConstantWifeIBDB:TheofficialsourceforBroadwayInformation". Does anyone have a link to the image, I've searched but not been able to find it. All we have is what little knowledge we have learned from previous serial killers. The cops need to release more of the recording, unedited. Durnell said he pressed Garnett, in a direct but composed manner, not threatening. Also, the she was hit in the head and never felt it sounds like wish fulfillment. Also in the thread is a link to a compilation of his TikTok video posts and his voice sounds like the voice of the Bridge Guy. So far, no additional information has been released and Indiana State Police have still not identified the vehicle or a possible person who may have been driving it. Who could harm anyone let alone a child? The video shows to me a broad-shouldered guy with long skinny legs. That doesnt mean he didnt know their parents or someone close to them someone he may have wanted to pay back. Congratulations on this excellent venture what a great idea! He was sending me full essays about hebephilia until I blocked him. The girls had noticed the pervy guy earlier when they later noticed him following them across the abandoned train trestle. I've never believed the catfish theory. I don't SEE any similarities b/t Chadwell and the suspect. R26 the FBI are involved, yeah. The story in the video (Libertys father fingered two meth dealers and this was retribution) makes more sense.and would account for the positioning of the bodies (sexual/religious) as a huge fuck you to the father and the community as a whole. "We dont release it to the media because then everyone and their brother would know, and its common to get false confessions from mentally disturbed people. husband, Laurie Sautereau, at their home in Fulham, west London, on Saturday, had committed suicide. They're keeping a lot from press. When you're shown information that contradicts whatever rumor it is you want to believe, you get huffy about it. But if they don't have DNA then they'll never be able to prove it. I mean, look at the guy in the thread about the PA murder-suicide and that was just about snow dumping! God, they have to catch this piece of human garbage! He has a richer sounding name. I hadnt read about that case. Another theory involves a second photo from the Delphi killings, taken at about 2 p.m. on that fateful day, which shows a man hiding behind a tree. At this point i think they should release more footage from the vid/recording as I think it would help given they obviously have zilch in terms of evidence. For further details of our complaints policy and to make a complaint please click this link: thesun.co.uk/editorial-complaints/, Abby Williams, 13, and her best friend Libby German, 14, were murdered in February 2017, Their bodies were discovered near a river a short distance away from the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi, on February 14, 2017, James Brian Chadwell II was investigated after his arrest in April. If sexual assault wasn't the motive, the motive must have been something else we're not aware of - such as a payback for a parent's debt. Anyone could have easily convinced the young girls that they werent allowed to be on the bridge and must return by a different route, then guiding them down the hill to an alternative route to the trail head. What we know about the notorious Delphi murders as man charged with killings. Look at his left ear in the photo and the left ear of the first sketch. i don't want to jump on the "this is the guy!" All the "recent" info is a bunch of conjecture from a supposed insider who has been all over the FB groups and Reddit. The bodies were discovered after a man's attention was drawn to the sight of 2 deer. A composite sketch one of just a couple pictures of the Delphi Murders suspect. Sometimes the police are lucky in their investigations and the perp caught in a timely manner. What's the update? Honestly, if they used a knife, the decision to not release the COD would be even more strange. Information sent by email is kept confidential and is only shared with investigators. Leigh Kerr appears to be intelligent and if he/she is for real, my guess is he/she is an attorney in the DAs office. be no inquest because there were no suspicious circumstances. The texts from the guy who found the girls say they were not posed. That should be the answer And right after the crime happened, i remember reading that le was checking stores in the area, to see if they sold a certain type of knife. The sketch of the sole suspect remained posted in the town years on, as authorities have released few Delphi murders updates. It just seems odd for a serial killer to strike in the remote area hoping a couple of teenage girls stroll by. LE doesn't want to call anyone a suspect only a POI (Person of Interest). No updates have been issued since. Last week, when I was wherever in the internet, I saw Robert Ives supposedly say non-secular. So I then went to a YouTube place and a commenter said crosses carved in the trees. Well who knows if thats true. [1] R43 Also, I think the father called at one point and I believe that would stop the camera? R219: Leigh Kerr appeared last night 3/2/2021 (either at LibbyandAbby or BuckRowdys new sub DelphiTodayIsTheDay) saying he had personal issues to attend to and would still respond. Some of the girls' clothing was found floating in the creek that they had been forced to cross. Like someone claiming to be a 13 yr old boy online and then a man shows up?? Specific Reason for Tip (i.e. Or, more likely, it was the cause of death that got them involved. This means he would likely be familiar with the Monon High Bridge: R26 the FBI are involved, yeah. If interested, check out the podcast murder sheet which actually has a reading of the 130 page transcript. He was asked a number of questions from readers of local newspaper The Carroll County Comet, but had to decline many of them for much the same reasons Paul Holes indicated. So, how much is Delphi Lawrence worth at the age of 70 years old? A witness came forward and described a car parked in a small lot near one of the trail exits for a few hours on the day of the murder. They can see it in another. "I believe that the individual, when we catch him, it will be a combination of those two.. I meanor they couldve been told by someone who knows the non public information. There is a photo on the internet of Libby in her casket. R81 might hold the clue. As we were leaving the room, he said, OK. There is a similarity in the way they speak. I still don't understand how or why they complied with this guy's orders unless he had a weapon. I hope the fear of being caught is with him every day. I do believe he got them to cooperate and keep quite by holding a weapon on one girl and telling them one sound and she was dead. People latch onto any clue (even ones that fall apart if you give it a second thought) and hound the police with them, even ones that have been already addressed (HE HAS TO BE OLD! Carter says a vehicle was parked at the old CPS/DCS Welfare building in Delphi on the east side of County Road 300 North, next to the Hoosier Heartland Highway between noon and 5 p.m. February 14, 2017. If you do not like it, please feel free to creep off somewhere else. A young male student who was in the room asserted he said something to try to save the girls. Ok, maybe this screenshot shows why I see a younger guy loaded with stuff. READ | Investigators say internet rumors can hinder search for Delphi killer. "I don't want this person to do this again, and if he has, I hope that I'm able to help that family and be a part of their lives eventually," Kelsi said. And it was in no way someone going rogue. This was a deliberate move by those handling the case to draw someone out. Is that what they call methed up bottom bitches in Alaska? Ive also read her body was still warm when they found her the next day.Its so awful to think maybe she could have been saved had she been found the day/night before. Younger guy was based on a pic from Libby's phone, And that explains when the cops said "we've changed directions and you didn't think we would", They should have released a lot more information. When they were still missing later that afternoon, family members contacted the sheriffs department for help. It should have been an OK thing to do. but since i have heard about this, there is a lower leg wound that won't go away. Lawrence's death was not being treated as suspicious. Heres the pedos mug shot next to the mystery photo the girls took the day they were murdered. . In that first sketch, shown below, detectives say the mans hat was changed to make his facial features more recognizable. Anyone here have additional details on the sheriff or have more knowledge with this case? Id love to have seen the sheriff photographed in the same position as the man in the photograph on the bridge and see if the images aligned. Carter added that investigators believe the suspect was between 18 and 40 years old, but likely looks much younger than his age. HE WALKED SLOW ON THE BRIDGE!). Forgive me if someone already said this: if the girls knew the killer they would have said his name and it would have been recorded by her phone during the attack. I think he has a lot of crap under that jacket. The only real clue of their location was a photo Libby had snapped of Abby walking along the bridge and posted to her social media. I think I would have nightmares for the rest of my life. Does anyone else remember this?? I am presuming the girl who had more physical trauma was Libby, since she was older and bigger than Abigail, and thus probably more likely to put up a fight or try to cause a scene. I listened to it years ago and I just listened to it again. But Durnell found holes in the story, he said, and other officers come back having found ropes and blankets similar to those in which Delphi was found wrapped in at his home. The murderer was or is definitely local or at least knew the trail. What is interesting is that evidently the Facebook poster used a dummy account posing as a woman to answer the questions and then slipped up and used his real account to answer one question. DELPHI Three years ago, two young girls went for a walk. A. The model's images were reportedly used without their knowledge or consent. So let's not get personal over this, ok? It took the panel two hours to return with a penalty of life behind bars. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------. i'd like it to be him. He said that he had an idea who killed her, and had since she disappeared. Those amateur sleuths on Reddit are batshit crazy. By bits and pieces, they told me it was a relative that did the killing, Lawrence said in an interview earlier this month. Detectives are hoping the audio will help them match the man's voice to a suspect once one has been identified. You think they're completely different, but he's got the eyes and lips of one and the nose of the other. Press J to jump to the feed. Marissa Bluestine, the Innocence Projects legal director, said she had not heard of Garnetts case until contacted about it by a reporter. Even sudden weight loss or gain can greatly alter ones face, giving an appearance of older or younger than their age. I'll try to find an interview with Abby's mom that's pretty good. The walkway they crossed was pretty damaged and he must have had prior experience of walking it, as he crossed it pretty quickly. On sub-Reddit DelphiIsTheDays Timeline there is a post asserting fellow student Cheyenne said on FB she heard screaming and called 911. Who knows if that is true. [quote] This guy had a gun and a knife(s), [quote]Just based on what I think is true-. One of his victims was a female bird watcher on an obscure trail of a nature reserve leading to speculation that the killer knew the specific area and lived/worked nearby. Regardless of whether it's a real person he's encountered or an image of some kind. I think that the escort who blew the whistle on the Lafayette's Men Club that shared girls and subjected them to horrible abuse + the Judge who had to resign could be part of the Delphi Murders. They were on another phone.". One woman said a young guy was staying at her house and an older guy who looks like Bridge Guy picked up the younger man from her house on the day the girls went missing. Not only for justice, but because that means that the sick sob who murdered those girls is off the streets. Before the murders, Libby had her aunt do a factory reset of her phone (Libby's phone) because it was acting up. I dont think its this guy. Sheriff Leazenby told RTV6 that evening that they had no reason to believe the girls were in danger. If I were to tell you the person I was sitting next to on the bus on the way here, I would probably tell you their nose was small and their eyes were blue. Looking at the guy that was just arrested seems like I am completely wrong. I did read that the bodies were found on the opposite bank to where he forced them down the hill. The Monon Trail also passes by the former (now abandoned) estate of Herb Baumeister, who buried some 30+ of his victims on the property. The killer is an older dude. I worked with a barrister once who had had to view CP images. when it had taken them for-fucking-ever to do jack shit about it and then they bungled and fucked up the search. He sat there and waited for his target victim to enter the path when it was empty. Please click here to update your account with a username and password. That said, the writing style to me reads as a man in either law enforcement or law. This isnt him. They have video, audio, and they should have dna of the killer, yet this case has been unsolved for nearly three years. It is not difficult to threaten and intimate children that age into obeying orders. I am somewhat surprised the case hasn't been closed yet what with the footage of the killeras was mentioned above, though, they may not have a sturdy enough case to "prove" their POI is responsible, even if they know who he is. Investigators worked up a composite sketch of the man in the photo. Some people think it could be the same guy who killed Lyric Cook and Elizabeth Collins. The police mention DNA evidence. He posed bodies in a horrifying way. I had doubts before but no longer after learning more about that terrain. This guy has been under investigation for about a week nowis he the guy? Very interesting. Maybe they didn't have a plan or "date" to MEET a catfisher, but maybe they had online chit-chat with a catfisher along the lines of, fun stuff they were going to do. What about Gabriel Ellis or Kurt Fouts (caught with an escort who said that judge Fouts was part of a sex club run by men who abuse girls in 2017).? These are things that I can see but we all get our own impressions. it would have been a thrilling adventure. I often think of this poor kid and wonder if he is okay. "We are confident you have told someone what you have done. Q. All of his victims were young, thin,attractive women with long brunette hair parted down the middle. Why have no other photos from Libbys phone been released to the public? R73, they were found at the edge of a privately owned 40-acre lot. R45 I think they crossed at a shallow point? Maybe they are close to getting this creep. Thank you for the updates. You've seen too many movies. We know how the girls died. The people who end up owing are typically dealers down the chain to the suppliers. I don't work in I.T. IF that all is true, it suggests pre-planning involving multiple people. (this is only my opinion and many disagree). By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Ive always thought it was some rando lucky-psycho that day. The second Delphi murders photo, though blurry, does seem to show someone wearing a dark jacket similar to the one in the suspects photo, though police are hesitant to make any statements about this, and subsequently, have not commented on this matter. Abby was collateral damage. Also, the way he was standing in one picture was almost exactly the same stance as BG. so many reddit threads i didn't read all the way through. He's wearing several layers of clothes including a hoodie and has stuff tucked under his jacket. I have not been able to post a link for 2 days or I would be happy to. Since then, no other potential suspects have been named by investigators. A copy of Lawrence's death certificate showed the cause of death was "alcoholic liver disease". The disclosure ended speculation that Lawrence, whose body was found by her husband, Laurie Sautereau, at their home in Fulham, west London, on Saturday, had committed suicide. There is a debate about when the guy got the tattoo and whether the tattoo is actually of the guy's late mother or Linda Blair's face from the Exorcist. If I hadnt let him take her home, she would probably be alive today.. It is, she said, a truly interesting case.. In a news release, the Indiana State Police said the creator of the profile used their contrived opulence while communicating with underage girls to "solicit nude images, obtain their addresses, and attempt to meet them.". Also praying that this monster is removed from society. I hope I'm just seeing things and nothing that horrific happened to the girls. Otherwise, you'll just have to find some other site Hopefully, it's him to give the family closure and he don't kill other girls. Is anyone here going to ask him a question? R183, I agree. Oh wait, thats one of those girls grandfather at R64. There are about 6 guys who internet sleuths have considered as suspects who look like the police sketch. R500 That's definitely weird. There are rumors that they did collect touch DNA at the site but no one knows for sure. If you haven't listened to The Prosecutors Podcast's four-episode series on this, I highly recommend it. [quote]Also.its such a small town. Not knowing the cause of death makes it worse because any terrible thing you can imagine could be true Did anyone watch the HSN special tonight? Lawrence, speaking to the Daily Local News recently about the case involving his sister and Garnett, said that Delphi had become literally a ghost, for him remembered, but only as a spectral presence. As someone who has known drug dealers, there are no owsies in that world. Too bad this pos hasn't. William DeLong is a freelance wordsmith. I hope the prisoners pull a Dalmer on his ass and beat him to death. When you start patching together all of the little snippets, it seems like something very freaky was done with bodies. That Robert Lindsay guy was a huge creep. I saw the helicopter photos but it didnt look like anything to me. R299, the tattoo dates to before the murders, there's a photo of him playing with a puppy in 2016 where he has the tat. One of them, Jimmy Dale Duvall, is dead now. In October, police announced that Richard Allen, 50, of Delphi, was arrested and charged with two counts of murder in the deaths of Libby and Abby. R476 There is a 29 yr old prosecutor (or maybe it was the investigator) that brought forth the fat pedo porn guy's case. Some people are suspecting his creepy dad and the pressure on him is to turn his dad in. 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