Ruth: Okay. Jamaicans are moreto the point. . 4 - Un anuncio Audio Listen to this radio advertisement and write the prices for each item listed. But the way we flavor it with salt fish is a way they flavor the majority of Ghanaian dishes are flavored with some form of smoked fish that is cut up just the same way wed cut up salt fish. We ate, you know, we went up, they had these trees that you that-. So when you go abroad and even when, you know, I travel abroad you get this, whats your funniest moment when someone discovered, you know, a Ghanaian discovered that you were Jamaican. Listen a lot and talk less. Dance through down. So finally, when he comes, you say, So why you never tell me? Bwoy (boy), a never want to upset you. A Conversation with Pretty Girls Can Cook Author Shantelee Brown. And I know dancehall music has gotten quite popular there, with some Ghana artists that have come out and performed with Jamaicans, so well have to have a music segment. Thank you for this Xavier. Ruth: So theres the obvious, which is the castle, which is where the last, you know, one of the castles, which was the last point for enslaved people. So, Jamaicans and other cultures too. It is not just Jamaican women who fear croaking lizards but Jamaican men will find excuses to leave a room with one. There is also a what many call today toxic maculinity part of the culture. So, its hierarchical in terms of tradition, in terms of gender, in terms of age. I read the comments made by anonymous about the bullying and rudeness and I cant help but wonder if that person didnt fully grasp cultural differences. Tell us by leaving a comment below. I think we joke a lot about almost everything. As you clearly have nothing meaningful to say, you have been blocked from further correspondence. But like seriously? Remember, the Irish suffer the same fate despite being quite northern themselves. Its important to note, however, that Jamaicans are predominantly bilingual and also speak Jamaican Patois (also known as Jamaican Patwa or Creole), which is a combination of English and some African languages. We are like, what you see is what you get. I for one have loads of Nigerian friends.. People do not posture for looks and ego. We saw it-. I Here, youd find that people would rather say, Oh, thats nice. Therefore when those blunt comments or people do get some kind of blunt thing or criticism back, my god they do not take it well. Have you ever wondered whats it like being a Jamaican living in Ghana? Ruth: I mean, its generally younger people who do it. So when youre in Ghana, you see Jamaica much more than you would see Jamaica in South Africa, even though they both feel homey. (Jamaicans Give Their Answers!). All the best. Ruth: Yes. Lets say youre walking through Spain and you seeing these historic buildings. Research like this is essential to understanding why that is, and how to change it. If you would like to evacuate a room of Jamaicans quickly, scream croaking lizard. Seek therapy. But twice we lived in South Africa twice. Webi think hate for jamaican people is due to the fact that their country is a bit corrupt, and how a lot of them smoke marijuana and theres a lot of gangs and violence and murders in the , Im not sure what that ladys problem was. Usually a toughness like this and materialism is surface meaning a deeper weakness.of some sort. So my tendency if someone was yelling at me would be to yell back why are you such an a88hole today?!! We are very loving though. Ghanaians I know do not speak negatively about Nigerians in fact they are peaceful and they are more focused on providing and protecting their families than worrying about what Nigerians are doing. So if you are going to be lying down on a beach in a swimsuit, you will find people coming home from a funeral, staring at you, kind of thinking, what are you doing? So they dont tend to display their body, to design clothing, to display their body like that. So me and my Jamaican crew, oh lord we get into trouble all the time. Ruth: There you go. Xavier: So, are you saying theyre a little like us. Ruth: Part two, yes. And it was emotional. You are. . . !..I dont know of a Bajan who doesnt respect a Jamaican and those who are intimidated by Jamaicans for one reason or the other, even if the dont want to visit Jamaica or have Jamaican friends, they still respect the Jamaican. Xavier: Because maybe now that explains the other side of, the DNA results that I got, which says Ben in Ghana and Nigeria. We're not mean. Parents dont send their children to school. You know, and that traditions have been carried out since then. You show them their yes sir, no sir shame. So, our Jamaican belief is truth, at all costs. U hate jamicans.ok. Why u hate them,talk make we hear you?. While we do have some exceptions, most of us are the most genuine people you could ever hope to meet. I have immigrant friends from all around the world and that is precisely how we view America and its people. It sits in a soup, in a very spicy soup. So, things are still assigned to gender in a way that we no longer assign them to in Jamaica. Chances are, you assumed they were arguing. Ruth: They dont eat boiled green bananas here. So, tradition here reveres time. She came to vent and be offensive, so who can say what her actual thoughts are? Then as time passed and you start to see clearer, meet people and question things, you soon realize that the insurgent slaves were the brave ones. Xavier: Aright. . As an author, you must be doing so badly that you had to find some ignorance to stir up some attention. Because if youre from a matrilineal system, then the children belong to the mother. If youre LGBTQ then there is documented truth to Jamaican being hostile. What I have zero respect for is the White lady waving to me while standing under the Confederate flag over her front porch. I mean, the Dominican (Republic) is embarrassed of their hate of Haitian people. Because were known for If wi like yu, yu gonna know it. (if we like you, you are going to know it). But it is this way. Its by far a more solid argument than ask anyone in the world. Xavier: So my next question to you is, so what do you like? Were assholes when were mad. You claim to be descendants of the Maroon, yet you attack your brother and devise a mischief. . A means set to keep Africans apart in the diaspora. Xavier: I dont remember the name of it, but, you know, I know there were a lot of kids around, it seemed like, you know, its a day trip for kids and I dont remember the name of the park. If you can't handle the truth don't ask a Jamaican because we tell you like it is. If I said to you, Xavier, bwoy (boy), mi a (I am) get married next week enuh (you know), yuh (you) coming to the wedding? As a Jamaican, yuh seh, Bwoy mi have sumn book fi next week so, a cya come. (you say, boy I have something book for next week so, a cannot come). Xavier: You know, I saw you when I got there. But theres still a bit of it left in me and I still see it through new eyes day. There is also an attitude of being a bad man or bad gyal. In the good and bad sense. TRUTH ISJAMAICA, heroes are never hailed by people who dont know how to get off their knees. Jamaicans are from the most aggressive tribes in west Africa, ( youruba, ashanti, fanti, etc. ) That said, homophobia is not mean. I didnt have to spend years there to see that one. But Ghana feels like home in a different way. Ghanaians believe in peace, at all costs. They would only inherit from me, but thats changed, but thats to show you the traditional system that I keep bucking up against. Utility Bills JPS too tief, mi nuh use so much currant Xavier: Oh yes. Just so you know, so they eat Ackee here. Kirk Campbell, I didnt say s law , dummy. And just seeing people stand up with their hands a kimbo, it just felt familiar. They are viewed like the most dangerous dinosaur. WebRespect, Jamaica! But its all very tasty, very peppery, very flavored with different smoked fishes. The author clearly wanted her post to go viral and it worked. So, its funny because theres the must tries that you want foreigners to start out with first, but its not necessarily your favorite, but theres some entry-level kind of meals, which are generally more accepted or easier to stomach than others. So when youre in Ghana, you see Jamaica much more than you would see Jamaica in South Africa, even though they both feel homey. Xavier: Wow! Nairaland - Copyright 2005 - 2023 Oluwaseun Osewa. Jamaicans do not take kindly to insults. We could lose patience with a friend in two seconds and then be fine again in five. Peoples behavior represents centuries of behavior that was interrupted at some point, but it wasnt taken away. @shadowtheprcat was such a good sport in the airport and quite the show stopper. A prime example of this is America. Xavier: I can tell you this, Ghana is at the top of my list, and I will be back. Here is your epic story rhyme and poems and story plot lines and all. As for the hurt when criticized, this one had me laughing. I just sat there and took in the surroundings of the kids playing, the adults, the whatever and we did basically nothing. Also we're not very good at hiding our true feelings so it's not surprising that some would interpret this as being mean. Never before have I ever heard so much ignorance or seen such lies put on the internet. Im not the one on someone elses website wailing and complaining. Ruth: Its embedded somehow in the tradition of, you know, centuries. Ghanaians simply hate to be criticized (either constructively or non-constructively); we do not criticize our own people, leaders and country as much as we will do to that of others. But theyre Ghanaian kids with international attachments. I wont. Jamaicans are notorious for finding ways to get to the front of long lines. Thats all Im saying. Obviously their quest for freedom continuedand even the government fought to contain them! Bob said "the truth is an offense, but never a sin". Dont do this whole kind of bwoy (boy) mi (I) just going up and No. Im a proud Jamaican love us or hate us Barbados or Trini we dont care we are who we are we wont stop yall from hating us cause your countries aint the only country that hate Jamaicans and we are still living so we dont care. sharp sharp indeed. We will brag about cutting lines while others waited hours. Ruth: Well, I think its a familiarity of it. What do you like most about Ghana? Two such ones are traffigator, an amalgamation of traffic and indicator as is used on a car and with an inserted g for good measure. I say lord, tek (take) time nuh (no) man. Maybe a little bit more, I dont know, but it wasnt too far. Thank you for your support. Who said Ghanaians hate us? Its almost like walking through a historic city. Getty Images. But any, maybe one tip youd seh (say), if youre moving here, what would the one thing youd seh (say). I currently live in Mexico and the Mexicans I know have also made a keen observation and distinction between African Americans and the West Indians they know, myself included. However, your observation of how that pride plays out is shallow and inaccurate. Yes. They will talk about it for days. People call in sick to work. The irony of this is that, we are always the first to cite the iniquities of others and their countries without a room for us to accept our own. It was the African Americans. Their open markets are like Coronation times 20. It calls on your senses much more than many other countries. We wont even get into the comments made when we chose not to support that Shacari girl after she disrespected one of our Jamaican athletes. Straight forward. We are an unbothered people for the most part. Number one place that you must visit? Its a snack that you eat on the road, but first-timers love it. Theres a big detachment there. It is an offense that can start an angry mob. It was, it was near to the castles? Brief excerpts and links may be used, provided that full and clear credit is given to Alexis Chateau with appropriate and specific direction to the original content. Who the first time Audley came, I ah she (a said), come, yuh (you) have to go to a market. And I never came looking for it. I had an Acadian mother and believe me, her French-Canadian behaviour was seen as very aggressive over in English Canada. And you see it clashing quite a bit. Before you pop off and take egoistic for completely bad or your own definition we are all egoistic its part of our survival nature. And there is big emphasis and focus on peoples external identity and value. They can be very mean. I thought the joke was on the person, not me rather, was, I would bump into guys who mightve studied overseas and they mightve had a Jamaican girlfriend overseas, and then when theyd hear that I was Jamaican, youd see them, their eyes kind of get watery. Its time for you to come back, but in the meantime, hope springs eternal. The heavy tradition means also that gender roles are more traditional than Jamaican gender roles. And then later still swear they take critisim fine its you with the problem. Cultures can vary so widely and be so nuanced, it is fascinating to me. I think a lot of people hear things said in Patois, or even just our accent when we speak English, and interpret the things we say a lot more aggressively than we might intend, but we're not mean at all. Privacy Policy & Terms of use. And they know that you dont eat the red bits and the black bit, but they eat it. WebThere are a few reasons why Nigerians and Jamaicans may not get along. There are no hurt feelings, but if you dont know our culture you would assume otherwise. They actually know right at that point that they cant come. Xavier: What is it like being a Jamaican in Ghana? So, even if youre six months older than me, you get my respect. It was very enlightening. Why do you people loose sleep over a perceived hatred from Ghanians? So, whats the main takeaway here? Going to work or school on a rainy day Mi wi cum, wen de rain ease up It comes from way back and it persists to this day. They believe that if youre maintaining peace, its okay to delay the truth or to color the truth. I lived in South Africa, spent a long time in Brazil and the US, but I think it just feels very familiar. I can see this as embarrassing to admit. FyffeStar (@FyffeJireh) March 7, 2020. Xavier: Wow. Because of this, many foreigners see us as aggressive, especially when they work with us. WebJamaicans do not take kindly to insults. So even though Jamaicans might look at seh, bwoy dem mek dem clothes tight eeh, (say, boy they make their clothes tight huh) because they do make their clothes tight here, to show their form, to show their body. 10 Singers and Rappers You May Not Know Were of Jamaican, Ann-Marie Campbell, Named to Head Home Depot 5 Things You Dont Know About Jamaican Rice and Peas, 15 Things Jamaicans Find Odd When they Moved to the USA. A friend I have from the middle east explained how giving a thumbs up is actually the same as giving the middle finger in the U.S. This all feeds into the done up looking good sexy thing. It's not that we are mean, we just find humor in almost everything. Also, what many outsiders view as us fussing is us having a good time. As one tweep explained, we have a short temper and an even shorter supply of patience. The other one that I used to get quite often and it would make me laugh. Although in Jamaica sexual So Nigerians and Ghanaians in temperament tend to be very different that way. Anyway. I just want to know which primary school in Barbados you attended because I went through primary AND secondary school in Barbados and never have I been taught that the slaves who didnt listen were shipped to Jamaica. So I dont know. In our Jamaicans to the World series, Jamaicans.com founder Xavier Murphy speaks with Ruth Kwakwa, a Jamaican living in Ghana. The UK does not count as "farrin". When you and I sit down, separately, well have another conversation. Some will go as far as find a reason why the murder of Haitians is justifiable. What I am saying is that we have a culture of responding aggressively when you cross the line. We lived in South Africa twice, actually. You just spending, you know, the five days in Nigeria and the two days in Ghana, you could just see the temperament. You pick at it, you put it in your mouth and you dont chew it. Ive seen it happen all the time, particularly with Americans sticking their nose into our business when we were perfectly fine. So, lets say the heavy tradition. And with me today is Ruth Qwaqwa from Ghana, a Jamaican who is living there. And they hear music the same way, but maybe on an exaggerated level, because the dancing we do in Jamaica is at one level, and the dancing that they do here in Ghana is at a different level completely. Yuh (you) coming tomorrow? Yes a coming tomorrow. Tomorrow pass, the next day pass, the next day pass. Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window), Click to email a link to a friend (Opens in new window), Click to share on LinkedIn (Opens in new window), Click to share on Tumblr (Opens in new window), Click to share on Telegram (Opens in new window), Click to share on WhatsApp (Opens in new window), Click to share on Skype (Opens in new window), Why Are Jamaicans So Mean? You are an affront to other islands Jamaica! Xavier: Theres nothing else. Babylon give you a toy.in your mind you turn cowboy. The only reason I came was because I fell in love with a Ghanaian. Their daily occurrences that remind you of how old this civilization is. So, let me give for the foreigner, for the Jamaican coming to Ghana, maybe you start with Jollof Rice, which Ghanaians and Nigerians always fighting over Jollof Rice. Thank God for the internet. We'll save so much time . Sliding in beside a friend, asking someone if they can cut in front or rushing the gate. i have a lot of Jamaicans friends and i give all the respect drew to them god bless all my springfield Jamaican. I love Nigerians, I dont just know, seriously Ghanians should stop the hatings, when they come over the internet, they pretend to hate us, but when they see an advert of work from a nigerian home abroad, they will be the first to rush to call over the phone that they need the job. Ruth: There we go, wheel and come again. WebThe ethnogenesis of the Black Jamaican people stemmed from the Atlantic slave trade of the 16th century, when enslaved Africans were transported as slaves to Jamaica and I see jamaicans work three jobs in the USA, so Im not talking of what I dont know. They may even argue to the death that it wasnt or just let what you say pass by with blissful ignorance as they reassure themselves. I never thought Jamaicans were mean! This is inevitable as attaching your worth and identity to external things creates a very unstable self worth which is affected by the external. But they also cant handled being cheated on for example. Xavier: So my first question is, which paat a Jamaica yuh cum fram? You have to wait for A, B and C to happen before you go and say that this person died. Blunt. So, I think when youre surrounded by all of that, it makes you feel okay about being overseas. Stock Photos from Photos.com, iStockPhotos.com, 123rf. Thanks for commenting. It's just cultural . Ruth: Who has the best Jollof rice? So anyway, so it is at a different level, but its hard to describe unless you see it and live it. Many Jamaicans tend to see foreigners as hypocritical because they will smile with you even if they can't stand you, Medium Fluffy (@averagejamaican) March 8, 2020. I miss the beach and it sounds weird because were on a coast here, but our beaches are different and there isnt a beach culture here. I think there is this feeling of inferiority and enviousness. Come this scammer, stop stalking me, am here to expose you, can u imagine a ghanian telling a friend of mine from sweeden how dangerous anyone from nigeria could be? By the time you come, well link up with Jam-rock restaurant and theyll throw down a few musicians and we will just have a good time. Funny to see the comment above from Marty and what came across as defensive reply from the author. . Clothes, looks, being right, what they have or can do with a lack of intrinsic worth and emotional understanding. Meanwhile, when I lived in Georgia, there were African Americans protesting at universities that affirmative action shouldnt be open to other non-White races/ethnicities and that Black people from other countries shouldnt have access either. I didnt say jamaicans invented rudeness either. Nobody does, dont do that. Nothing compares with the Chieftaincy System, but its still very important here. Britt The Beauty (@Britt__Da__Shit) March 8, 2020. Croaking Lizards (Gecko) Mi hear a loud croaken lizaad pon yuh verandah, suh me tun back I tore up like a baby. 1. FOH, Go, get a damm haircut, and learn where in Africa jamaicans came from , youre a damm fool, Instead of writing this load of crap Why does the author not ask Jamaicans to stop stealing the $4million reported by LIME to stop stealing the copper wire for residents of Manchester to have service. When I was in high school, I lived in Spain, loved it. WebSixty per cent of Jamaicans say they reject the lifestyle compared to the 46 per cent in 2012. As mad/crazy as they were (supposedly), these humans knew they didnt want to be slaves. Kind of like the consistency of chewing gum, but its hard to imagine a lot of chewing gum. That my passport is expired. WebBecause of so many hatings going on online from Ghanians towards Nigerians, when ever it comes to me or any of my friends wanting to employ african apart from Nigerians, for Who has the Best Patties in Jamaica? Ruth: Everything, everything. And this has happened in EVERY country I travel to. Xavier: So, any closing thoughts if someone said, You know what, Im moving there, any closing thoughts? Even while enjoying social time, non-Jamaicans often mistake our loud conversations for fights. Thats, thats it. Saving water and electricity is an art practiced by many Jamaicans daily. They might tell someone their question is dumb but go on to ask an even dumber question but dont dare try to tell them theirs was dumb. They arent necessarily bad thats to each owns interpretation but to me I see a lot of this materialism in Jamaicans. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. I think the experience in Ghana is much more Which one is it? This is rapidly changing, but not fast enough. But Really Though? Mean? Stupse. Ruth: Okay. It is therefore not DNA based but a pure sociological ill that can be address frontally. Instead of trying to answer this one myself, Ive enlisted the help of fellow Jamaicans to tell you why we are so mean after all or that youre totally mistaken. WebJamaicans are all hustlers. . And again, we kind of touched on it. Ruth: Yu (you) cannot be a hypocrite, right? Check out Sheris Blog HERE and Like the Naked Departure Facebook Page HERE, Remember to share this article on Facebook and other Social Media Platforms. 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