I believe the Delhi killer found s barrel chested and throes out his right leg when walking. Juan "Johnny" Ruiz, who was with MCSO for three years, died on Oct. 11. Abby (or Abbie) was an informal nickname. [1] David and his family members all claimed that Ame is not his daughter. It has been my opinion from the onslaught, that these were not his first killings. "Nobody actually said it [but] he must not be to walk on a bridge like that or he walked that bridge many times.". "We have a lot of clay here in Indiana so it's like standing on churned butter. Video / ABC News. Again, the rumor mill is turning. Unnamed neighbors toldThe Republic the Redmonds wererecluses, saying they kept to themselves in theyear they lived in the area. Michael Rudd died on Oct. 11 during a pursuit on Interstate 10, and that same day, the family of Maricopa County Sheriff's Deputy Juan Ruiz took him off life support after he was assaulted by a suspect last weekend. There are also rumours they have DNA as well. [7], Police claimed that the other children instigated situations to get Ame in trouble. Sad truth is Mr Logan has paid a price for violating his probation while a murderer walks free. About seven months later, the Maricopa County Attorney's Office announced on May 4 that it intends to seek the death penalty. The suspect who reportedly attacked and killed a Maricopa County Sheriff's deputy in October 2021 may face the death penalty, the county attorney's office said months later. READ MORE: Families of murdered teen girls Abigail Williams and Liberty German speak out about ongoing investigation Fears of link between 'Snapchat killer' and unsolved double murder of young cousins 'We have a hole in our family': A year on from the 'Snapchat' murders Haunting last picture of dead teen. The bodies may have been posed in an odd or provocative manner, often indicative of serial killer behavior. Or, maybe they did find something, and they are trying to get a confession. Shirley claims also that the family threw her out and she left without her children, relocating to Iola, Kansas. In the early weeks of the investigation, police released a picture of the man believed to be the killer, taken on Libby's cell phone the day the girls disappeared and they audio believed to be the killer's voice saying, "Down the hill.". I thought there was a search for the girls in the area they were found, but they weren't found until noon the next day. The bodies were all found in areas a hunter might frequent. John and Sammantha Allen were charged with first degree murder, conspiracy to commit child abuse and many counts of child abuse. "It's been six months. 2023 www.jconline.com. Second the FBI has expert voice recognition capacities and certainly Mr Logan has spoken in interviews and they could certainly identify that this was his voice on Libbey 's phone. Cause of death for Libby and Abby has not been publicly released but two photos, a sketch of a possible suspect, and a brief audio clip of his voice have been released. McCall and Bracy have since died in prison. Police say the girls mostly talk about "stuff girls talk about" in the recording, but they also mention the man. If you have any information on the Delphi murders, contact law enforcement at1-800-225-5324 orAbbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. It's unclear when he met and married Marilyn Redmond, but the couple shared their three children and his two stepchildren, according to the obituary. At 2.09pm, Libby, used her mobile phone to upload a picture of Abby walking on the iconic bridge to Snapchat. "Our heart is with (MCSO) and the family of Deputy Ruiz during these difficult moments," Gilbert PD said. - Families and friends are saying goodbye to the Delphi girls who were killed while hiking in Carroll County last week. As far as him being a transient, no way. 2:58. One former investigator on the case told podcast Down The Hill (DTH) that the killer who police have now confirmed they believe is the man Libby captured on her phone left "a lot of evidence" at the crime scene. When it was reported they towed away his car it seemed locked in. Does anyone know of any quotes from LE, the coroner or even family members which suggests or mentions a letter carved onto Libbys chest? Still, Marilyn Redmondwas able to tell officers at the scene that three men entered the home with a gun. "Down where you see him on that photo [the image captured by Libby German on her phone] is especially mushy and I was scared there. The news outlets also speculated about a tattoo on Chadwell. Why do you think the man on the picture has not been caught yet? Ame Lynn Deal was born in Monongahela, Pennsylvania, on July 24, 2000, to Shirley Deal, who was married to David Deal at the time she conceived. I wonder if the FBI has been contacted for data regarding truck drivers moving between Iowa and Indiana on the days in question? In the second sketch, the man is much younger and with a full head of hair rather than a cap on his head. TERRAFULLSIGHT 1.61K subscribers Subscribe 1.6K views 1 year ago #DURecorder #DURecorder This is my video recorded with DU Recorder. The teens were found dead "down the hill" the following day. My initial guess was that the man in the picture is either a transient or truck driversomething that allowed him to get out of the area quickly. "It's amazing we have a video, we have a still photograph, we have sound and we don't know who this person is," he said. "Truly heartbreaking. In Chadwell'sMay 21 filing for a change of venue, his attorneys wrote, "Chadwell is unable to receive a fair trial in Tippecanoe County, Indiana, as it has been reported that he is being investigated for the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German. A five-and-a-half-year nationwide search for a suspect in the killings of two Indiana teens ended with the arrest of a local man, authorities said Monday.. How investigators came to arrest 50-year . Chadwell stopped his assault and answered the door when police knocked, according to prosecutors. They all claimed that they found Ame dead the next day, in the trunk. Police released two very different sketches of the face of the killer, one soon after the murder and another based on an interview with a person who may have seen the culprit near Monon High Bridge on the day of the murder. May have become unusually interested in news reports about the case or otherwise involved himself in the case such as talking excessively about it, compulsively reading news articles, or helping with the search party. Note how this detail is similar in the photos of the Bridge Guy. She spent Sunday marking the six-month anniversary of the girls' disappearance by visiting all of Abby's favorite fishing spots. The fact that they are holding the landowner seemed promising to me when first reported. I'm hoping they found their guy or that maybe he knows more than he let on. [3] One neighbor said that he saw babies in highchairs eating in front, outside of the house, late at night. He's charged with two counts of murder and has entered a not guilty plea. I see their little faces and I just get mad. Notifications can be turned off anytime in the browser settings. Idk if he's an actual suspect, but the police certainly jumped on the opportunity to detain him for his probation violations and have kept him in custody. I don't think he is the BG in pictures though. Is familiar with the local area even though he has not planted long-term roots there. This is someone who feels comfortable in these woods. It has been suggested this meant the crime scene had signs of satanic ritual, but there is no evidence of that nor any indication by police how the girls were murdered. median home value in Arizona was about$54,800. It helped put the layout of the land and the time it takes to traverse it into perspective. Libby German and Abby Williams were murdered in Delphi, Indiana on Feb. 13, 2017. It's the only plausible explanation for the search party not finding them earlier. On Libby's person, police found her mobile phone and on that they found video of a man on the Monon High Bridge. We have our local rumors too. Witnessesidentified the hired gunmen as McCall, William Bracy and Murray Hooper, both of Chicago. "[When] I walked to the bridge, everything is so quiet and calm that it's almost as if that bridge is saying 'I dare you,' while trying to hide the fact that the girls died there. They said Ame often had head lice and once had cat urine on her shoes. He robbed them of this life.". friend to the couple portrayed them as sociable, Marilyn Redmond remembered rolling off the bed and crawling to the family room, Good Samaritan Hospital in Phoenix, where she stayed for about 13days, Phoenix police DetectiveGeorgeKlettlinger told the Associated Press, former Phoenix police officer Edward Lonzo McCall, Jr., was booked, Redmond even traveled to Chicago, Illinois, to identifyBracy and Hooper. A friend of mine from Flora, IN says that it's true. Check this out: https://youtu.be/DZzBCyLSI0E. Look at the map of the area and youll see that Ron Logans property is in a perfect spot to pull something like this off. I just think maybe he knows more than he is saying. LH told news.com.au the it took her an hour to cross Monon High Bridge and once she had done so, she wasn't going to cross back the same way, crawling on her knees. Please keep Deputy Ruiz's family in your prayers.". Was wearing a hat (most likely a camouflage hunting cap with ear flaps or pageboy cap), hooded sweatshirt, scarf, and blue jeans on the day of the Delphi murders. In . William Redmond was a member of the St. Catherine's Catholic Church in Columbus, Ohio, the Elks and a contributing member of St. Mary's Food Bank, his obituary in The Republic said. Nothing more. In my mind it just seems unfathomable that there could be photographic and audio evidence of the suspect and he is still at large. Double homicides may have simply been crimes of opportunity rather than a specific type he was seeking out. [10] Prosecutors announced they intended to seek the death penalty for John and Sammantha Allen. All three men were ultimatelyconvicted on two counts of first-degree murder and one count of attempted first-degree murder and sentenced to death. Required fields are marked *. Delphi police and the prosecutor's office said a public court hearing will be set to determine if the documents, including the affidavit in the case, will remain under seal. I am not family, nor am I friends with anyone in the families. Deputy Juan Ruiz was assaulted while taking a suspect with felony warrants into custody on Oct. 9, and died days later. Libby German recorded the killer's order after she placed her phone with its video camera rolling in her pocket as he cornered them on the bridge. Part, or all, of the killings may have been captured on video. Abby survived the initial attack and crawled out of the body of water but perished due to hypothermia and blood loss. I am open to all possibilities at this point. FOX 10's Nicole Garcia reports. It was an unseasonably warm day and the best friends were dropped off at 1.35pm for their walk, which started at a location which, LH told news.com.au, has since been fenced off with bent red metal gate. I can't imagine what their families must be going through. Ame Lynn Deal (July 24, 2000 July 12, 2011) was an American 10-year-old girl who was murdered in Phoenix, Arizona, in July 2011. But the Redmonds opted to stay home that night because Marilyn'smother, Helen Phelps, was visiting, Kelly said. If you have any information on the Delphi murders, contact law enforcement at 1-800-225-5324 or Abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. Press J to jump to the feed. Is there any personal significance for him to the teens or middle of the month and does he have 3-day weekends? The girls throats were injured in the course of their deaths, either through strangulation or by being cut with a knife. I don't know but the more time goes by, the angrier I get. She is one of only three women on Arizona's death row (the others are Shawna Forde and Wendi Andriano)[13][14], John Allen was found guilty of murder on November 8, 2017, and on November 17, 2017 was sentenced to death by lethal injection. I had initially heard from my wife's mom that some of her coworkers from Delphi said that the girls had acid on them to hide their identities. The Evansdale, Iowa murders are eerily similar. I'll be checking back.. I check daily, too. Regardless of who did it, I hope they find the whoever is responsible for these murders. Ive been sifting through so many news reports, facebook groups, true crime forums and truthtellers. I thought that he knew more than he was letting on and while he might not be the killer, he knew who was and that person had access to his property. Just days after the girls died, police began looking into Kline, WISH-TV reported. Hurley was found hours later after being involved in a shootout with a homeowner in Tonopah when he was struck by a bullet. BUT if I am misunderstanding how the search went down and how the girls were found, then that can change. Then again, did they not have an open casket funeral?? However, there are new developments with the owner of the property where the girls were found. That is quite an unusual and risky MO. [1], Both Sammantha and John Allen (born June 14 and July 19, 1988, respectively) were arrested for murder on July 27, 2011. He succumbed to the injuries sustained on Saturday at the hands of a violent predator. Both Carter, the local sheriff, other law enforcement and Delphi citizens themselves are convinced because of the location of the girls' abduction and murder, the killer was a local or former resident with intimate knowledge of the site. Unsubstantiated Rumors in the Delphi Case. Lyrics grandmother last saw the girls around 12:20pm and reported them missing around 2pm. She was acquitted in 1985 after a third trial. Privacy Policy. FULL STORY HERE: https:/. [9] A few days after the arrests, David Deal asked various friends and family for money to bail his mother, Judith Deal and his sister, Cynthia Stoltzmann out of jail.[5]. "So now the question is, what is this community willing to do to make sure that this suspect goes back to prison or somewhere else for the actions against this deputy?" Gaining control of them with a knife or gun, he forced them to turn northward and down the hill. I hope they figure it out soon. [15][16][17], Last edited on 26 February 2023, at 23:55, List of women on death row in the United States, "Phoenix girl's death in footlocker horrifies mom", "Details emerge of a life of horror for Phoenix girl who died", "Phoenix police: 4 people arrested in child's death", "Ame Deal's Father Trying to Bail Monsters Who Murdered His Daughter Out of Jail", "School officials in Utah reported abuse of Ame Deal", "Phoenix Police: Abuse of Ame Deal "Makes You Sick to Your Stomach. Identified the place he would hide likely from a nearby elevated position such as a deer lookout to watch and observe potential victim/s and where he would take them to torture/kill them. Parks at the cps bldg in the early morning and walks around. Thank you .Ron Logan is being crucified at many sleuths web sites.I am not related to him and live 700 miles from Delphi. I agree with a lot of what you're saying. She was either still (barely) alive when searchers found her or had perished just prior to being found (reports alternate between either her passing away in the ambulance or her body still being warm, but deceased, when searchers found her). That's not too far from the end.". By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The court approved the amended charge on May 12. He also hadfive grandchildren, three sisters and two brothers. Atsome point, he lived in Ohio, before moving to Phoenix in the 1950s, according to details provided in 1981byhis obituary andby his friend and business partner, Ron Lukezic. I read somewhere where it was suggested that this guy maybe another Ted Bundy. She has bone chips in a precarious place in her head," Phoenix police DetectiveGeorgeKlettlinger told the Associated Pressat the time. "Support for different agencies and how dangerous this job is, we have to have each other's backs," said Avondale Police Officer Derek Rogers. Given the rumors circulating in regards to these crimes; rape, throat slitting, etc., these crimes were not committed quickly. "Yesterday was worse than today, but I kept off social media and stayed to myself and stayed quiet," said Williams. William Redmond, who went by "Pat" to those closest to him,was born in Huntington, West Virginia. One of them also carried a briefcase,the AP reported. Cookie Notice Join half a million readers enjoying Newsweek's free newsletters, An interview transcript of police and one man reveals new details about the death of two teenage girls under investigation in Delphi, Indiana. He passed the girls on the bridge, then turned back and when the girls noticed him walking back in their direction, Libby started recording. Clinton Hurley, the suspect accused of killing Maricopa County deputy Juan Ruiz, has been released from the hospital and is now in Pinal County Jail. Experiences deep-seated rage toward women. The space between the gaps is not enough for your foot to slide through, unless you turn it sideways. That knock on the door might have saved the girl's life. "Because this is not a singular issue.". Both cases involved young females between the ages of 8-14. This case has been driving me crazy. Judith Deal and Cynthia Stoltzmann were arrested for child abuse and kidnapping, since they both admitted that in the past they too, had locked Ame in the trunk. Killer is somewhat familiar with the local area. Despite this, they have also said that they do not suspect the families in either case. Your service and dedication to the community will not be forgotten.". They need to look at cameras in town,search for matching clothes,walk,talk,the town behind him and town in front, Your email address will not be published. "There is moss growing on some spots where the ties are spongy, likely contributing to the decay. They seemed to have done a good job executing their evil act. Maybe this guy knew those girls were going to be there, maybe he overheard them speaking or maybe he knew their mother and their mother told him that they were going to be there Anything is possible these days. What about your hair?' Get out the door. "We don't need them anymore," Marilyn Redmond recalled one of the men saying. Lyric Cook,10: Friday, July 13, 2012; Evansdale, Iowa (found deceased), Elizabeth Collins,8:Friday, July 13, 2012; Evansdale, Iowa (found deceased), Liberty Libby German,14: Monday, February 13, 2017; Delphi, Indiana (found deceased), Abigail Abby Williams,13:Monday, February 13, 2017; Delphi, Indiana (found deceased). Ive been sifting through so many news reports, facebook groups, true crime forums and truthtellers. Their bodies were found in the woods east of Delphi the next day on Valentine's Day. What I find odd is that LE don't seem to be very urgent to solve this case. I live very close to Delphi, and I want this guy off the streets. It's been almost two months and this monster still hasn't been caught even with a voice recording and photos? Deal had been the victim of long-term abuse by her family members before being locked inside a footlocker, where she subsequently died from suffocation. [4], David Deal, Ame's possible father, was reported living in the back of the family rental home in a tent with his two other children. One investigator into the as-yet unsolved murders, has revealed the girls' killer left several "strange signatures" at the kill site. But a transcript of a conversation between police and a man named Kegan Kline gives more information as officers continue looking into the girls' disappearance and death, WISH-TV reported. Knows how to cover his tracks and not leave evidence behind. May make regular stops for work nearby or have been in the area for a few days prior with time to scout out the surrounding area. It has also been mentioned that Daniel Nations girlfriend's first name starts with "K", (although I . Speculation has also arisen that the comments by Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter, who is in charge of the case, about the killer's "voice of the devil" comment had hidden meaning. Carter said the killer's age had been estimated between 18 and 40. Police say the girls mostly talk about "stuff girls talk about" in the recording, but they also mention the man. On April 19, 42-year-oldChadwell allegedly lured a 9-year-old neighborhood girl into his house at 714 Park Ave. in Lafayette, where prosecutors say he beat her, locked her in the basement andsexually assaulted her before police looking for the girl knocked on his door. This office will seek justice for Deputy Ruiz and his family.". William Redmond, after answeringthe door,called out, "Marilyn,come here." I have also heard they were beaten pretty badly. [1] Sammantha and John Allen were convicted in 2017 of first degree murder and sentenced to death by lethal injection, while Sammantha Allen's mother, Cynthia Stoltzmann, arranged a plea deal with prosecutors and was sentenced to 24 years in prison. Sad truth is law enforcement is more interested in using him as a diversion. Typically, he said, the group would spend the holiday at their favorite bar, Chester's Bar near 23rd Avenue and Indian School Road, where they'd met more than 10 years earlier. "Every time I go there it gets worse and worse, she said, "You can grab onto pieces of wood and pull it right off the ties. The girls may have been sexually-assaulted and/or murdered in a nearby structure such as a barn or out-building before being deposited where they were found. "My neck was stiff and I could hardly lift it very easily.". This didn't have to have happen. Ruiz's family, meanwhile, spoke of how excited Ruiz was when he passed the academy. The Monon High Bridge trail. Just off the square, the investigation command center remains open, where police still come and go daily, looking into tips that come in about the girls' murders. Families of murdered teen girls Abigail Williams and Liberty German speak out about ongoing investigation, Fears of link between 'Snapchat killer' and unsolved double murder of young cousins, 'We have a hole in our family': A year on from the 'Snapchat' murders. La Paz County Sgt. Purple and teal ribbons, their favorite colors, hang on lamp posts. If DNA was recovered from the scene, the killer does not have any felony convictions in Indiana (they collect DNA from all felons). The hill the girls were forced down is steeper, and once on it, a person would feel "trapped with no way out". Eventually Shirley and the children joined David again and they lived in Midland, Texas, together with David's mother, Judith Deal, and his sister, Cynthia Stoltzmann. You're going to wear that? Man arrested after explosives found in a checked-in bag. Then again, he was also convinced that there was a pic of BG in that pic of Abby on the bridge. Published 2:05 AM PST Nov. 15, 2022 Updated 12:41 PM PST Nov. 29, 2022. Newly released interview transcripts of police and one man reveal more details about the investigation into the death of two Indiana teenage girls. Police found the bodies of Liberty "Libby" German, 14, and. Friends Libby German, 14, and Abby Williams, 13, left school early and were dropped off around 1:45pm by a relative to go hiking on trails near the Moon High Bridge in Delphi, Indiana. ", The Tucson Police Department remarked, "The Tucson Police Department is heartbroken to hear of Maricopa County Sheriff's Department Deputy Juan M. Ruiz's death. The girls bodies may have been dragged, there may have been drag marks near where they were found. Nothing less is acceptable.". I don't believe he did it, but am curious about his son or people he may know. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The DTH podcast theorises that one person with considerable knowledge of the area committed the crime and had been planning it for some time. 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